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Found more poetry!

Also, most important thing to remember while writing 'At the First Glimpse of Thunder' or whatever part of it I end up writing next -

This is an AU of Earth. It is not Earth.

This means that America doesn't have to win the Revolution.

Huh.

*considers possibilities*

Date: 2009-07-16 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lassiterfics.livejournal.com
SO MANY. Hollywood never happens. And what about the World Wars?

Date: 2009-07-16 03:43 pm (UTC)
ext_80109: (Mulan: Mulan: garden walk)
From: [identity profile] be-themoon.livejournal.com
I KNOW I KNOW! *is really excited* I mean, I'm not going to go very far into the future because, well, the Monroes only live so long and I'm concentrating on them, but even the short-range results would be pretty fun to write about.

For instance, I've decided that at this point England has not yet taken control of Canada, and New Orleans of course is under the Spanish still, though it's soon going back to the French (who don't sell it to America because there is no America to sell it to!).

During the war, Cedric is sent to N. O. to try to get aid from the Spanish, Sebastian is sent to Canada to try to get aid from the French, and they are still there when America is defeated, whereupon they stay there. Cedric is more or less like "FUCK THIS SHIT, ENGLAND TORTURED MY KID BROTHER" and becomes a doctor in New Orleans and gets involved with pirates. Sebastian and Cecilia hang out in Canada and get involved with the resistance against the English when France sells Canada to them.

Things happen. WHEEEEEEE!

Date: 2009-07-16 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
"FUCK THIS SHIT, ENGLAND TORTURED MY KID BROTHER"

Oh Ced. ♥

Date: 2009-07-16 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
America doesn't win the Revolution? AAAAH, that just changes everything. Very, very exciting. *bounces* You make me love this verse more with every post, bb.

Also, I must read all this poetry sometime. Writing inspiration FTW. 8D

Date: 2009-07-17 02:44 pm (UTC)
ext_80109: (Star Trek: Chekov: I can do zat!)
From: [identity profile] be-themoon.livejournal.com
I'm really, really leaning towards this, if only because then I can write doctor!Cedric in New Orleans with pirates. *squees* ALSO. Rebel Sebastian and Cecilia! And Holland undermining English government from England where she's waiting for her English Navy husband to get home.

Oh, Monroes. You make me so happy.

Date: 2009-07-17 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
Pirates! Pirates are the greatest. Though there are so many technicalities regarding the sea that I get really confused (Merchantverse research boggles my mind).

Aww, Sebastian and Cecilia! Of course they'd be rebels, probably the leaders of some underground resistance. :)

Also, I love Holland and politics. Let the stuffy English government officials know who's boss. ♥

Date: 2009-07-17 03:06 pm (UTC)
ext_80109: (Misc: Text: own that shit)
From: [identity profile] be-themoon.livejournal.com
He probably won't be going out on the actual voyages (OH THANK GOODNESS NO SHIPS RESEARCH), but he'll be in the bayous and the swamps and hanging around town with criminals a lot. He doesn't tell his siblings about that part, but they guess. They are very good at guessing.

Also, Sebastian's mom? The one I never talk about? Was more or less an Indian 'princess'. So Sebastian gets along with the Indians in Canada really well.

She does it through society - she quietly starts chains of gossip about all sorts of important government leaders. Very quietly, so that no one would suspect her. And when she actually has something against them, she does blackmail. That woman is fierce.

Date: 2009-07-17 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
AH YOU ARE SO LUCKY. SHIP RESEARCH KILLS ME. But oh Cedric. His siblings know him too well. :)

Yay! So Indian cooperation isn't a problem. :D

Now that is the best way to do that kind of thing. Reminds me of school except so much cooler. Go Holland!

Date: 2009-07-17 03:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] be-themoon.livejournal.com
It kills me too. I've never been able to figure out how a ship works. D: He can't fool them!

XD He and Cecilia hang out with the Indians and the Frenchmen who don't like the English taking over, and hatch all sorts of .... interesting plans.

If people in government actually noticed that there was a pattern (which of course they don't) to the politicians getting blackened by gossip, they would notice that it was all people who had a history of speaking against America.

(Also, America itself? Not doing so great right now. The Tories are coming back triumphant, the Rebels are ticked, prominent leaders have been hanged or forced to swear loyalty to England, and the entire seething mess is about two inches from civil war.)

Date: 2009-07-17 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
Yeah, they're really confusing. My brother tried to explain it to me, but I didn't get any of it.

Haha is it weird that all this makes me think of the French and Indian War?

Oh, America, so screwed up. <3333

Date: 2009-07-17 06:03 pm (UTC)
ext_80109: (Merlin: Morgana/Arthur: with you)
From: [identity profile] be-themoon.livejournal.com
No, that's more or less what it's the equivalent of, though several years later and without American aid.

Apparently, it's not enough for me to screw my characters up, I've got to screw up my country too. O.o

Date: 2009-07-17 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
So it's just the "French" (Sebastian, Cecilia, etc.) and the Indians versus the British? Sweetness.

Well America did lose the Revolutionary War in any case, so it's almost insurprising that the country's messed up.

Also, out of curiosity, your armies/navys have gunpowder, right? How would you write warfare with, say, muskets/cannons? I'm not sure if I should give Merchantverse gunpowder or not, and it's really bothering me.

Date: 2009-07-17 07:35 pm (UTC)
ext_80109: (Default)
From: [identity profile] be-themoon.livejournal.com
And only in Canada, which might at this point actually replace America as the only free/not colonized American country at this rate.

ALSO, HELP. Holland has informed me that Adam ties and she takes up with Cedric in New Orleans. CEDRIC. MY BRAIN, IT IS DEAD.

Yeah, they definitely have gunpowder - we're talking early rifles/cannons at this point, I would guess. I'm not going to be actually writing almost any fighting, because none of the Monroes are near any (except for Adam). Re: Merchantverse, how advanced do you want the ships to be? Because that will give you a fairly good idea of whether there's gunpowder or not (if it's very close to Earth, that is).

Date: 2009-07-17 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
Really now? That's cool...so America is still under British control, seeing as they lost the war and all.

Adam ties? ...What exactly does that mean? And isn't she in England anyways? Well...um, could you possibly write it off as a drunken one-night sort of thing? Or has it already become a la Peter/Susan?

Oh yeah it's all rather close to Earth technology-wise. Well I'm pretty sure that we need cannons (one scene would be nigh impossible to write without them), so I guess I really have no choice about gunpowder.

Date: 2009-07-17 09:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] be-themoon.livejournal.com
*headdesk* That was supposed to be Adam dies not ties. XD Yeah, apparently the scenario is he dies in action, she moves to New Orleans because she didn't want to go to England in the first place, and then things happen. I'm not even sure what it is, to tell the truth. But... eh, we'll see. Maybe they'll relent sometime. (You know, I am fairly certain I used to only throw kids into war - not throw them into war and have them come out hanging out with pirates and sleeping with their sister. What... what happened to the loveable Ced of early days?)

I think going with gunpowder is probably a good idea. Other than that, how's Merchantverse going? You haven't talked about it much recently - is it coming at all?

Date: 2009-07-17 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Okay so at least it isn't cheating. That makes me less weirded out by it all. And you know, this is starting to remind me of the Junior Pevensies. The ships and pirates (Richard and Pauli), the sleeping with his siblings (just about everyone).

Merchantverse? It's coming, all rather slowly. I may be saving it for NaNo (is it cheating if I start it before November?). But there are also some technicalities to work out: such as for what reason would pirates keep Georgia alive, imprisoned, and preferably not raped?

Date: 2009-07-17 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
And that was me, but not logged in.

Date: 2009-07-17 11:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] be-themoon.livejournal.com
Ohhhh. Now I see why you were so weirded out! No, Holland would never cheat on Adam. :D He just dies (... *facepalm*.) (That is unintentional, if it does remind you of it!)

Not cheating, but it doesn't really count as a NaNo win according to the official rules. Which is to say, it is NaNo! They don't recommend starting ahead of time, but they won't penalize you for it. The main thing is to get 50K done (OMG CAN'T WAIT FOR NANO WHEEEE!).

... I... do not know why the pirates would do that. Maybe she tricks them somehow? Convinces them she's worth some sort of money if they keep her alive? Hmmm. Interesting dilemma.

Date: 2009-07-18 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
He just dies? Awww, that makes me really sad. Poor Cecilia. And why does my crazy brain think angsty Seb/Celia as a result of that?

Hmm...I think I'll just do mostly plotty & researchy stuff for now, that way I have most of that out of the way in time for NaNo (last time I killed all my time doing worldbuilding and fail!stuff).

That is actually probable...they keep Marcus alive because they know they can get a ransom off him (his father may be dead, but that doesn't mean that he hasn't got wealthy family members...and his mother is quite the independent woman), so I guess she could pretend that...she was Marcus' sister? And he could threaten to do something to himself (read: hang himself or something) if they rape her?

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